The Podcast

The Engaging Gray Podcast features conversations between Founder Mary DeYoung and diverse professionals discussing what it means to engage the complex, ambiguous, and messy realities of life.

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Hailey Mitsui - A Contemplative Relay

On this week's episode, we have Hailey Mitsui! Hailey talks about how living a contemplative life is antithetical to performance, and performance is antithetical to perseverance. So how do we cultivate a contemplative life? How do we integrate this into our day to day, leading to a life marked by engaged perseverance?

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Tova Jones - How priorities help you pace.

In this episode of Engaging Gray, we talk with Tova Jones, a wife, mother, and serial entrepreneur about how she and her husband have cultivated a pace of perseverance together. We get really practical about how to do it, why it's important, and talk about what it takes to do this well. We talk about how knowing your priorities and sticking to those is an essential part of saying yes to the right things, and no to the wrong things. Join us on this week's episode of Engaging Gray!

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How Cultural Intelligence can help your Antiracist Journey with Dr. Sandra Upton

In this episode of Engaging Gray, we talk with Dr. Sandra Upton about how Cultural Intelligence can be a valuable tool and part of your antiracist journey. Whether it's as on your individual journey or your organizational journey, Cultural Intelligence can be a key part of growing in your capacity to effectively engage across differences.

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Bridge Building with Shirley Hoogstra

In this episode, we talk with Shirley Hoogstra, President of the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities, about bridge building. 2020 has been no stranger to dissent, tension, and unprecedented change. 2020 has left many of us feeling isolated and now more than ever it is hard to see the full humanity in those around us. Bridge building is essential, especially now.

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Cultivating a Pace of Perseverance with Shannon Cohen

The political climate is tense right now. Jer Swigart joins us from Oregan to talk with us about what his current context has revealed about white supremacy and white liberalism. He describes this context, what it looks like, and how it keeps us divided.

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White Liberalism with Jer Swigart

The political climate is tense right now. Jer Swigart joins us from Oregan to talk with us about what his current context has revealed about white supremacy and white liberalism. He describes this context, what it looks like, and how it keeps us divided.

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Engaging the news with Michelle Jokisch-Polo

We are bombarded with messages every day. Sometimes it can be hard to tell fact from fiction, and this can cause friction between ourselves and others. Michelle joins us to talk about journalism, about how she does it, and how we can get better at navigating through all of the noise. Tune in for some great insights!

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Ourselves and DEI: Guest Shavon Doyle- Holton

Shavon has worked for years with individuals and companies on how to navigate these spaces and how to make sure that these relationships are sustainable. Shavon talks with us about how understanding ourselves is critical to effective diversity, equity, and inclusion work, what happens when we don't, and how we can take tangible steps forward!

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Ourselves and Leadership: Guest Abbey Johnston

Abbey Johnston joins us for a discussion on why knowing ourselves is key to leadership. We talk about the barriers we face when starting this journey of self-discovery, tools to help us continue, and the impact it has on our teams and ourselves when we invest in this work. 

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Ourselves and Goals: Guest Sam Jones

am Jones, Founder of the Wisdom Center joins us to discuss how, working on our own goals, or working on our personal lives, requires us to know where we're starting from. Sam gives some practical advice, encouragement, and tools for beginning the journey of self-discovery.

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Starting with ourselves

We're starting where we often do, with ourselves. In this episode, we talk about why understanding and accepting ourselves is key to engaging gray spaces. How knowing your starting point for any self-improvement or transformation is essential for lasting and impactful change. We scratch the surface of this idea because in the next three episodes we will dive more deeply.

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